Pretty much every day I listen to The Writer’s Almanac with Garrison Keillor. He always mentions the birthday of a few famous or infamous people. Today, he mentioned Elvis Presley, John Neihardt, the writer of Black Elk Speaks, and astrophysicist Stephen Hawking. He didn’t mention me for some reason. I also still don’t have a page in Wikipedia. What’s up with that?
Other than January 8 as a birthday, I don’t see much in common among these folks and me. Would some astrologist please explain this? I am sure there is some “reasonable” connection that would confirm the theory that the heavenly spheres and their relative placement affects our personalities and daily lives.
I am officially 60 years old today. I hope to be around for many more. But if you believe some theories it will be my last. And unless your birthday is after December 21, it will be the last birthday for all of us. If your birthday is 12/21 or later in the month, then you’ve already seen your last birthday.
So, what do astrologers have to say about this end of the world scenario? Thankfully, some are able to interpret the signs. For example, this guy:
Thanks man! It all makes perfect sense, now…
“I do not devote any attention to astrology as I think it’s bunk.”
…whaaatever. Gou glance at the horoscope in the paper once in awhile if it’s in front of you and apply as necessary…has nothing to do with who wrote the horoscope or what it says, but an alternate way of thinking that is just as legitimate as any other, maybe moreso. Instinct and intuition, time as an illusion.
Occam’s razor…if you were born and raised in the jungle, everything to do with space unrelated to planetary happenstance would be irrelevant. It has to do with instinct and intuition…completely non-voodoo subject, for you to write it off like that. Put yourself in other shoes. Tribal societies lasted eons, listening to “astrologists”. Ours is already on its way out under the guidance of “astronomers”.
The mayans, btw, didn’t predict the end of the world, but the beginning of a new calander.
No. I do not devote any attention to astrology as I think it’s bunk. Just because something has been around a long time does not give it legitimacy. That’s a common logical fallacy: http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/the-argument-from-antiquity/
Wow, that for real? That reads like a schoolyard clique diss. Totally brainless bashing, coming from somebody of your stature. Irrelevant unprovable suppositions? Be honest, do really devote any attention to “astrology” the first place? As in, how it might apply to you? You know better than anybody, your own superstitions…to completely write off practices that are as old as humanity itself.
That’s because on one side (astrologers) can’t deny actual evidence found in science while on the other (astronomers) ignore irrelevant unprovable suppositions. The sides of the coin are not at all equal.
…actually, two sides of the same coin…the intentions of the astronomer aren’t the same as those of the astrologist at all. Whereas the astrologist already supposes the astronomer, the astronomer does his best to ignore the astrologist. The coin toss deciding third party focus. Or something.
Great point, but in that same sense, why believe a wealthy clan of former highschool astronomy geeks turned certified stuffed suits who read The Economist and ridicule all things “supernatural”? Not even two sides of the same coin, but the same side of the same coin, just painted differently.
“What if everybody born during a time…” Well, what if the moon really were made if cheese?
But even if we were to accept this supposition, who among us could possibly interpret all the meanings of all the particles and their positions at any given time? Certainly not the charlatans that call themselves astrologists.
I agree. The video is nauseating.
Well how many dinosaur molecules do you think you have floating around in your body? How many particles of neptunian spacedust are among those that compose your brain? What if everybody born during a time when neptunian spacedust was falling over the planet in abundance, are ever so slightly inclined to one thing or another because of the amount of spacedust that literally formed their brain cells during our mothers’ pregnancy? How would we know what we don’t know?
I couldn’t stomach more than a hundred and eight seconds of that video you posted above.
I think I need to fall back on Occam’s Razor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor) here as your extended explanations are too complicated to follow and unravel. Thus I suspect purposeful obfuscation.
You, born on jan 8 were, to the planet’s degree, are of the same affect as everybody else being born at that point in time, based on the energy of the moment. You can’t help but be structured, physically and consciously, around the energies of the larger universe…their motives trump ours, is the idea.
…so, yeah I guess, everything is affected by everything, but as far as your question goes, I think I explained it pretty well…more about relativity.
Not at all…coexistence is more like it, recognizing the next exponential scope of matter (planets as atoms, whatever) as behaving the same as we are behaving, in their own relative (not necessarily identical) way. In which case, the same way the independently active cells in your foot receive signals from afar, so does planet earth to affect its behavior in the form of gravity? space dust? “cosmic frequencies”….in relative time, atom Sol in molecule Milky Way is moving slower than the speed of light, and we are moving so much faster than that on its surface.
That’s just like saying everything is affected by everything isn’t it?
…one orbit of planet earth around our sun takes the same relative amount of time as one electron to circle its corresponding proton, in any element within us. The being that is the universe in which we beleive ourselves to exist is moving far slower than a snail’s pace, to say the least. What signals are planet earth sending/receiving? Are we humans part of a problem or sollution?
Neither an astrologist nor astronomist, but as best I can….
Relatively speaking, the molecules on our toes are galaxies apart from the molecules in our brain. Within these molecules are infinite particles seperated (separated? spell check me) by trillions of lightyears of their own relative space. By our perception, the molecules in our brain signal the molecules in our feet faster than we can think. The signals vary, they can create pain, movement, growth, degeneration…our human conditions.
The planets, galaxies, solar systems etc. of our universe are no different than the cells, molecules and atoms in our body. There’s no reason to disbelieve signals of various relative nature transfer between them as they do between our mutually connected bodies and cells within.
So, if you were born at the same time as somebody else, all universal frequencies passing through you were identical to those passing through everybody else born at the same time, and similarly every time the universe’s “cells” “molecules” “atoms” whatever align in their own correspondig ways…no more or less alive than the “inanimate” elements that compose our living physical bodies.
The rest is what you believe the signals are…gravity? light? obvious…information to signal pain? pleasure? movement? Were those signals related to the ideology some have come to recognize as the popular horoscope? Signals we can’t imagine, the same way a squirrel can’t ever imagine a telephone as it runs between telephone poles.